Discussion about this post

User's avatar
Foe's avatar
Sep 27Edited

These are very interesting ideas.

I agree with many of your observations about a "society in decline."

Your account offers an "intuitive" moral clarity - it begins with abortion then all social decline follows from that terrible foundational sin.

A point of contention - perhaps the foundational sin does not begin with abortion?

Perhaps it begins with the degradation of the male & female relationship?

- this echoes the Fall of Adam and Eve.

After the Fall, children are born into sin and they will commit further sin

- including fratricide and infanticide.

The holy union of marriage protects relations between people and between men and women -sex, reproduction, children and family are better protected from sin by holy matrimony. And when that holy union is degraded, greater sins follow.

The degradation of marriage today can be partly explained by "sexual liberation" - the emphasis in on freedom, choice (aka consent), pleasure (& pain avoidance), individual desire (no personal sacrifice for others).

The "liberation" has inflamed problems like:

- the loss of marital priority (e.g. ease of divorce) contrary to God's intent that Adam and Eve "shall become one flesh" (Genesis 2:18-24)

- the loss of the sacral quality (mysterion*), i.e. the relationship of the married with God (Ephesians 5:22-33; Malachi 2:14-16; Proverbs 5:18-19)

- the mis-use of birth-control & contraception, weakening of the marital/familial bond

The "liberation" also created or aggravated a general proliferation of sexual sins:

- fornication (porneia*)

- adultery

- lust (uncontrolled sex desire)

- debauchery (uncontrolled sex behaviour)

- and perhaps more pride & vanity....

The confusion about "personhood" or the sanctity of life of stem-cells or zygotes and foeti etc. is part of this disordered and fallen state of "sexual liberation" and the destruction of marriage - which lead to the murder of the young and innocent.

"Sexual liberation" is an idol akin to Molech. Like the Canaanites we kill or sacrifice infants and children to this idol (abortion, transgenderism, gay-adoption). Idolatry is spiritual adultery.

The Bible considers murder & idolatry to be an abominations. Child-sacrifice is the most terrible combination of these sins, warranting capital punishment and divine judgment. (Leviticus 18:21, 20:2-5; 2 Kings 23:10; Jeremiah 32:35).

The results are less married couples, less families, a falling birth-rate and ultimately a dying culture - an unholy society bereft of God, morality, direction, protection, self-perpetuation, self-defence.

And we invite into our Godless lives a flood of foreigners with witch-craft, false-prophecy, more idols - the end of communal holiness - yet more "sexual liberation" and more child-sacrifice.

Thus - the degraded relations between men and women feeds depraved sexual relations, idolatry, child-sacrifice - as well as the rest of your list describing "A Society in Decline" - this new Sodom and Gomorrah.

*from the Greek

Expand full comment
Ianus's avatar

Man, I really need to read Aquinas, I keep putting him off in favour of more technical/philosophical reading.

In my world-view, one major underlying process is Generational Erosion as your rightly point to. The issue being also that "corrupted" individuals reproduce and thus propagate corruption in the form of higher mutational load down the line. This leads to a tipping point at the end stages of civilization, where we are. There are countless articles and books going back even to the 1800's talking about stock and how mixing of a "good" and "bad" stock can cause issues. This is purely a naturalistic point of view.

On the other hand, I must agree with your Synagogue of Satan observation. The monetary power by itself in the hands of a few families is just not negligible. One cannot state that it is a conspiracy theory, since trails, historical reviews, books etc. exist on the subject going back again at least to the 1800's. In addition to this, knowing the Talmudic views which are undelying to Zionism, we are not in a good place.

However I cannot see your conclusion come to fruition. People will have to experience hell. They have to become cornered animals in order to give up the comforts of even the present - although the situation is worse by the week. You can already see some revival of religiosity among the younger generations, since it is mainly genetically healthy people who reproduce. Their offspring would not be carrying the "corruption" of the ages. The rest will go by the way of the dinosaurs.

It is a personal view, but I would much prefer the Church fall and become an ingrained moral part of people - but then again, I don't agree with the modern Christian Morality TM. I see no positive to most church heads that seat the Vatican either.

Expand full comment
1 more comment...

No posts