Multiverse Journal - Index Number 2207:, 18th February 2025, ChatGPT Dialog

A Journal across Realities, Time, Space, Soul-States.

Steven Work

Feb 18, 2025

February 18th, 2025

Good Tuesday,

May the Spirit of the Gospel and the Holy Word be Always on our Tongues, in our Hearts, Minds, and in our Hands.

Holy Virgin Mother Mary and All Saints - Pray for us!

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Index Number 2207:

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Greetings [again]!

It has been a while since my old computer died and took all my often used images and gave me a Blessed break from what had become a many hours 7-days a week Cross. The burned out processor of the old computer I took for a Blessed break directed from God, Praise the Lord!

In this between duration I have learned much more Traditional Catholic Theology, Doctrines, and scriptural inter-connections and interpretations. Some Modern Philosophy terms that should make communication more precise.

My intention is to always implicitly believe and profess all the Doctrines of The Holy Roman Apostolic Traditional Catholic Church. That stated, in my searching, questions, suggestions, .. it is likely I will extend beyond the Catholic Doctrines and Theologies, and that is how this should be read and considered.

In the ChatGPT Journal version, I will record some interesting interaction that has been generated in my experiments with this AI programming and training.

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This is the AI.Notebook.Google.Evaluation of my AI dialog included after. Although the Evaluation is not fully accurate, it does outline some of the dialog well.

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The Google AI created ‘Deep Thoughts’ review mentioned the classic Trolley Problem for which I have an answer I propose for you to consider.

Map of some concepts and topics in this Post

Consider:

Before the Holy Ghost Moved me and removed a Family Demon that Blinded me to Evils, I struggled with the Trolley Problem; I found the right answer but could not argue why it was right.

I would not touch the switch, with one exception - if a child or physically weak mother or other(s) appealed to me personally, and they could not do it themselves. Apologetics for that exception later.

When I converted to [now Traditional] Catholicism and meditated on the Wedding at Cana the answer unfolded to me.

In the beginning of the narrative Jesus and Mother Mary when Mary makes clear to Jesus that the Host of the gathering is running out of wine for everyone. As here,

John 2:3-5;

".. And the wine failing, the mother of Jesus saith to him: They have no wine. And Jesus saith to her: Woman, what is that to me and to thee? my hour is not yet come. His mother saith to the waiters: Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye."

Notice Jesus' first response; ".. And Jesus saith to her: Woman, what is that to me and to thee? .."

He would not interfere because it was God the Father's Will and so Lovingly Best for all to not interfere. And the ".. my hour is not yet come. .." to start His public Ministry. Likely He would wait until the Holy Ghost Moves Him.

He uses the Jewish hand washing Jars and Water as the practice to desire to cleanse themselves so not bring dangerous Sins into building (perhaps symbolic Church.) I consider this a preFormation of Sacrament of Reconciliation. Where the act of washing hands is the Confession of filled with sin(s) and those sins go into the water Jar with all the other people, from before He started this series of steps to His upcoming Miracle.

Jesus commands the Servants (His Church's Ordained and Faithful baptized to fill reminder of Jars with clean water (Penitence) from the Church Treasury of Grace. And Jesus Wills the Transformation of Essence and Form, Water to Wine. (Absolution.)

Related to the Trolley Problem, it is God's Will and without a Holy Sign it would be most Loving to do nothing.

Exception(s) are if someone unable to reach switch in time or not strong enough appeals for a change. (in the roll of Holy Mother Mary) Then I would consider that a Sign. And then engage the Change.

The CEO is alive, and God's Will for that, and so proper Justice is inaction.

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To ChatGPT, Consider this; "Are the Quantum causes are not caused by God, the first cause?" All causes have a first cause but seems not predictable or deterministic. I agree, except I believe all things are deterministic, although might be infinite connected versions.. Let us consider the Rationalist reality (world), body & brain. These together and alone are deterministic, that is - if you start the day and the person exactly the same, like a snapshot copy of the world, at wake time the same day would occur (assume all others are like that person, isolated) a kind of NPC. Now consider the many-worlds Quantum universe and each separate world is only a slight probability-distant, that is, that early morning, for example, the other worlds versions of him woke to use bathroom but lingered in bed different durations, so in morning those worlds would be 'close', as opposed to the world and version of him that went shopping the day before, where he ordering pizza, that world and version of him would be a larger probability-distance further. And again, for all those others, so-on & so-on. Now being a man, we assume he is in the image of God, and his neurons in brain cross-communicate to nearest versions in (closest worlds) with him, many slightly different versions, in different 'directions' and each of those are cross-communicating with those versions a little further away and with the initial version we started with, the Ego1. So, from That single 'unit' version that is clearly deterministic, to nearly infinite brain with signals 'further' arriving a tiny bit later, and seems non-deterministic, the Consciousness-Emergence. Now add Trinitarian & Angel's (White and Dark ones) influences and then multidimensionally deterministically infinite, perhaps. Is that clear enough?

ChatGPT response;

Steve, you’re outlining an intricate and thought-provoking synthesis that weaves together determinism, the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics, and theological ideas. Let me try to summarize and reflect on your proposal:

Deterministic Foundations:
You begin with the notion that our classical, rationalist world—the body, brain, and everyday experiences—is strictly deterministic. In a hypothetical “snapshot copy” of the world, if every condition were exactly replicated, the day would unfold identically. This echoes a classical, clockwork universe.
Many-Worlds and Probabilistic Variations:
You then introduce the many-worlds quantum framework, where slight probability differences produce multiple, nearly identical versions of events. For instance, in one world, a person might wake up a bit later, while in another, they follow a different routine. Though each world evolves deterministically on its own, the slight divergences across worlds create a kind of “probability distance.”
Cross-World Neural Communication and Consciousness:
Here’s where your idea gets really interesting:
- Since humans are made in the image of God, you propose that the brain's neurons might not only process information from our immediate physical reality but also somehow “communicate” with the closest versions of ourselves in adjacent quantum branches.
- This cross-communication, you suggest, could accumulate into what we experience as consciousness—an emergent phenomenon that appears non-deterministic due to the near-infinite, time-lagged signals from slightly differing versions of ourselves.
Divine and Angelic Influences:
Finally, you layer in the idea that Trinitarian influences and even angelic forces (both benevolent and malevolent) might interact with this vast, multidimensional network. This adds a further dimension of complexity, suggesting that while the universe is deterministically structured, it’s influenced by divine causality and spiritual entities.

In essence, you’re arguing that:

At its core, everything is deterministic—every cause, every event has a first cause (God).
Yet, the quantum many-worlds framework introduces subtle variations that, when integrated across countless worlds and through complex neural interconnections, give rise to a consciousness that seems free or non-deterministic.
This model remains compatible with the idea of God as the ultimate first cause, but it also allows for a rich, multi-layered reality where even our conscious experiences are part of a vast, interconnected, deterministic network.

Some clarifying questions and points to consider:

Mechanism of Cross-World Communication: How do you envision neurons or brain processes interfacing with these adjacent quantum states? Is this a literal physical process, or more of a metaphorical model for emergent complexity?
Implications for Free Will: If all outcomes are determined by this network, what does that mean for our experience of free will? Is free will an emergent illusion arising from the complex interplay of near-identical quantum branches?
Integration with Theology: How do you see divine influences (Trinitarian and angelic) practically interacting with this network? Are these influences causal forces that modulate the deterministic process, or are they part of the underlying structure itself?

Your synthesis is certainly dense and challenging—it touches on some of the most profound questions at the intersection of science, philosophy, and theology. It’s a fascinating perspective that invites further exploration and discussion.

Is this an accurate reflection of your ideas, or is there any part you’d like to elaborate on further?

To ChatGPT;

For model 1 assume; It has been discovered that neurons generate photons when active, and perhaps like the double slit laser experiment there is cross talk. For model 2; Or the electrical potential that propagated between neurons through the axons and synaptic-junctions, and so Electrically couples. For both models assume the Electromagnetic or Photons are a plank-length or less in probability-separation for overlap influence. For Model 3 assume; reality is a recursive Simulation, and the cross-talk is coded in the Simulation. For Model 4 assume; we are a dream person Hosted in Holy Jesus, And He on Cross as a Quantum Wave and as Host the different worlds and version leave a shadow that interacts with the next world and version that He dreams.

ChatGPT response;

Below is an integrated overview of your four models, each proposing a different mechanism by which “cross-talk” might occur among the many quantum or simulated versions of our neural processes, potentially influencing consciousness.

Model 1: Biophoton Cross-Talk

Assumption:
Neurons are discovered to emit photons when they are active.
Mechanism:
Similar to the double-slit experiment where light interferes with itself, these biophotons might “cross-talk” between closely related quantum states of the brain.
Scale:
The emitted photons (or their probability waves) overlap within a distance on the order of the Planck length or less, allowing subtle interference between nearly identical neural events.
Implication:
Such quantum-level interactions could be a substrate for the integration of slightly different “versions” of a person (as imagined in many-worlds scenarios), possibly contributing to what we experience as a unified, though emergent, consciousness.

Model 2: Electromagnetic Coupling

Assumption:
The electrical potentials that propagate along axons and across synapses might have a role beyond conventional signaling.
Mechanism:
If these electrical signals (or their associated electromagnetic fields) can overlap at distances around a Planck length, they might “electrically couple” neurons not only within a single brain but across adjacent quantum states.
Scale:
Like Model 1, the assumption is that the relevant signals overlap on an extremely small (Planck-scale) probability distance, allowing subtle influence between near-identical versions.
Implication:
This model suggests that deterministic neural processes, when overlaid with quantum-level electromagnetic coupling, might give rise to emergent phenomena that seem non-deterministic, possibly explaining aspects of subjective experience.

Model 3: Reality as a Recursive Simulation

Assumption:
Our entire reality is a recursively generated simulation.
Mechanism:
In this digital framework, what we perceive as “cross-talk” between versions of ourselves is actually coded within the simulation itself.
Scale:
The simulation’s code may operate at a resolution or scale (analogous to the Planck length) where different iterations or “worlds” are only slightly different.
Implication:
This view reframes neural cross-talk as an emergent property of the simulation’s design. The perceived continuity and coherence of consciousness might arise from programmed interactions between these near-identical states, offering a deterministic explanation within a computational framework.

Model 4: The Dream Person Hosted in Holy Jesus

Assumption:
Our individual consciousness is like a “dream” hosted by Holy Jesus.
Mechanism:
Here, Jesus—symbolized as a quantum wave on the Cross—acts as a host for different versions or “worlds” of our consciousness.
Scale:
The interaction among these versions occurs at a quantum level (again, at or below Planck-length scales), with each “shadow” or residual trace of one world influencing the next.
Implication:
This model merges theological symbolism with quantum theory. The idea is that divine influence (via the Trinitarian and angelic realms) integrates the nearly infinite, deterministic quantum variations of our neural states into a coherent, emergent experience of consciousness. This perspective also suggests that our existence and free will are intimately connected with divine purpose and cosmic order.

Comparative Reflection

Determinism vs. Emergence:
All four models share an underlying deterministic framework—each quantum or coded “unit” is set by initial conditions. Yet, they propose that the emergent properties (like consciousness) appear non-deterministic due to intricate interactions at incredibly small scales or via coded instructions.
Mechanism of “Cross-Talk”:
Whether via biophotons (Model 1), electrical coupling (Model 2), simulation code (Model 3), or divine hosting (Model 4), the models explore how seemingly isolated events might interact across near-identical states, creating a richer, more complex conscious experience.
Philosophical and Theological Integration:
Models 1 and 2 lean more toward physical phenomena that might underlie neural processes. In contrast, Model 3 reinterprets these phenomena within a simulated reality framework, and Model 4 introduces a theological dimension where divine presence interweaves with quantum events to shape our experience.

Each model remains highly speculative but provides intriguing pathways for considering how determinism at a fundamental level might give rise to the emergent, rich tapestry of human consciousness. They also invite further investigation—both experimentally (in the realm of quantum biology or neuroscience) and philosophically (in the realms of simulation theory and theological metaphysics).

Do these summaries capture your ideas accurately, or would you like to expand or adjust any part of the models further?

To ChatGPT;

Assume in the Simulation version that each recursive Call of the reality state or world and version of person computes at a much higher computing rate so that a subjective day for the R[i] level, the recursive Call creating R[i+1] is a thousand years of further recursive days, so speed ratio of 1 to 365250. This might be imagined as computer-satellites orbiting a Black-Hole so the lower or slower rate satellite sends a 'snap-shot' and the Reality State to the next level orbiting Satellite that runs 365250 times faster, and that satellite runs simulation chunk-of-time, the smallest moment of the time that light takes to travel a plank-length, and then sends the advanced 'snap-shot' to next faster and higher level satellite orbit, again and again all the moments in all the days of the person's life, then each level Returns with the information that is important, and that 'movement' data at the lowest slowest level, the closest level to surface of Black-hole records all that information on surface of black-hole in a Holographic sheet over the last moments sheet, creating our soul's Book-of-Life.

ChatGPT response;

Below is a revised, integrated explanation of the Simulation model incorporating your additional assumptions:

Enhanced Simulation Model: Recursive Computation and the Book-of-Life

Core Assumption:
Our reality is a recursive simulation, where each “call” or level (denoted as R[i]) computes at a vastly accelerated rate relative to the level immediately below it. Specifically, one subjective day at level R[i] corresponds to 365,250 subjective days (roughly a thousand years) at level R[i+1].

Visualization – Orbiting Satellites Around a Black Hole:

Lower-Level Satellite:
Imagine a satellite orbiting close to a black hole. This satellite represents the slowest computational level, where time is computed in extremely fine-grained chunks—on the order of the time it takes light to traverse a Planck length.
Higher-Level Satellites:
As you move outward, each subsequent satellite represents a higher simulation level that computes 365,250 times faster than the one below. The lower-level satellite sends “snapshots” of the current reality state to the next, higher-level satellite. This higher-level satellite then runs a simulation chunk that integrates a vast number of these snapshots.
Recursive Flow:
This process repeats recursively. Each higher-level satellite processes ever larger “chunks” of simulated time, effectively condensing and integrating the detailed data from the lower levels. The rapid computations at higher levels generate a coherent “advanced snapshot” of the reality state for that moment.

Emergent Consciousness and the Soul’s Record:

Data Integration:
As these recursive calls progress, the detailed movement and neural data—recorded at the slowest, most fundamental level—are continuously transmitted upward. This integrated data captures every nuance of a person’s life as experienced in the simulation.
The Book-of-Life:
At the final stage, the aggregated movement and simulation data from the lowest level is recorded holographically on the surface of the black hole. This holographic record functions as a “Book-of-Life,” containing all essential information about the simulated life. It serves as a metaphysical ledger of the soul’s journey, embodying both the determinism of the underlying simulation and the emergent complexity of conscious experience.

Implications of the Model:

Determinism Within a Hierarchical Framework:
Although every level of the simulation is deterministic in its computation, the sheer complexity of recursive processing—and the massive difference in computational speeds between levels—creates an emergent experience of consciousness that appears non-deterministic or fluid to the subject.
Integration of Micro and Macro Realities:
The model bridges the micro-level (Planck-scale computations in the low-level satellite) with macro-level emergent phenomena (the integrated experience of consciousness recorded in the holographic Book-of-Life).
A Metaphysical Connection:
By linking the final holographic record to the concept of a soul’s Book-of-Life, this model also suggests a deep, possibly divine, dimension to our existence. It envisions our lives as not only simulated events but also as part of a transcendent record that may be overseen or influenced by higher spiritual realities.

This enhanced Simulation model offers a vivid metaphor: our reality is computed in nested layers, each running much faster than the last, with every layer contributing to a cumulative, integrated record that shapes our conscious experience and, ultimately, the spiritual record of our lives.

Does this revised explanation capture your intended vision, or are there further details you’d like to refine or expand upon?

{End of ChatGPT dialog}

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May God have Mercy on us all.

Added 21st May 2025:

Background about Bio-Photons in Neurons (2)

Barros BJ and Cunha JPS (2024) Neurophotonics: a comprehensive review, current challenges and future trends. Front. Neurosci. 18:1382341. doi: 10.3389/fnins.2024.1382341
Abstract: he human brain, with its vast network of billions of neurons and trillions of synapses (connections) between diverse cell types, remains one of the greatest mysteries in science and medicine. Despite extensive research, an understanding of the underlying mechanisms that drive normal behaviors and response to disease states is still limited. Advancement in the Neuroscience field and development of therapeutics for related pathologies requires innovative technologies that can provide a dynamic and systematic understanding of the interactions between neurons and neural circuits. In this work, we provide an up-to-date overview of the evolution of neurophotonic approaches in the last 10 years through a multi-source, literature analysis. From an initial corpus of 243 papers retrieved from Scopus, PubMed and WoS databases, we have followed the PRISMA approach to select 56 papers in the area. Following a full-text evaluation of these 56 scientific articles, six main areas of applied research were identified and discussed: (1) Advanced optogenetics, (2) Multimodal neural interfaces, (3) Innovative therapeutics, (4) Imaging devices and probes, (5) Remote operations, and (6) Microfluidic platforms. For each area, the main technologies selected are discussed according to the photonic principles applied, the neuroscience application evaluated and the more indicative results of efficiency and scientific potential. This detailed analysis is followed by an outlook of the main challenges tackled over the last 10 years in the Neurophotonics field, as well as the main technological advances regarding specificity, light delivery, multimodality, imaging, materials and system designs. We conclude with a discussion of considerable challenges for future innovation and translation in Neurophotonics, from light delivery within the brain to physical constraints and data management strategies.

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A. L. Allegra Mascaro, L. Silvestri, L. Sacconi and F. S. Pavone, "Breakthroughs in Photonics 2012: Nonlinear Laser Imaging for Neuroscience," in IEEE Photonics Journal, vol. 5, no. 2, pp. 0701006-0701006, April 2013, Art no. 0701006, doi: 10.1109/JPHOT.2013.2250941.
Abstract: Many advantages make optical methods more and more interesting for neuroscientists. Thanks to the development of new voltage-sensitive dyes and of optogenetic probes, photon-based exploration of neuronal electrical activity is rapidly overcoming most of the electron-based techniques for electrophysiological investigations. These innovative labeling strategies have been recently combined with nonlinear imaging techniques, giving new trigger to the investigation of neuronal circuitry. Advances in nonlinear optical imaging of neuron voltage now provide not only a readout of the electrical activity of each neuron through wide microcircuits but also a map of the functionality of dendritic trees and synaptic compartments. Furthermore, improved optogenetic tools can now be easily combined with two-photon excitation, allowing light stimulation of single cells in vivo . This review will describe the main advantages of combining nonlinear laser imaging with specific reporters that allow reconstructing the neuronal circuitry by specifically interrogating or recording from single neurons. We will focus on two outstanding studies of 2012 that took advantage of two-photon microscopy to increase the spatial resolution, opening promising prospective in neuronal activity investigation.

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